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This riddle was suggested by Latchezar Christov - thanks Latchezar!

We will call two triangles "sibling pairs" if they are two non-identical triangles with integer side lengths respectively (a,b,c_1) and (a,b,c_2) , where c_1 and c_2 are the only side of each triangle with a different length from the other triangle, since there are two common side lengths a,b **and** both triangles must have a common nonzero area.

An example is the pair of triangles with side lengths (5,5,6) and (5,5,8) . The area of both is 12. Another example is (7,4,7) and (7,4,9) with area \sqrt{180} .

For some a and b , there may not be any sibling pair at all (e.g., a=3 and b=2 ) and for some, there may be more than one. For example, if a=24 and b=23 , three sibling pairs exist with the following side lengths:

  • (24,23,19) and (24,23,43) , area = \sqrt{41580}
  • (24,23,23) and (24,23,41) , area = \sqrt{55440}
  • (24,23,29) and (24,23,37) , area = \sqrt{71820}

Your goal: Find two integers a,b such that a>b and there are **exactly** 50 sibling pairs with common side lengths a and b .

**A bonus** "*" will be given for solving the above problem with the additional constraint that at least two of those 50 sibling pairs must have **integer** areas. The areas of the remaining pairs may be irrational.


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Challenge: 29/08/2024 @ 12:45 PM EST
Solution: 05/10/2024 @ 12:00 AM EST
List Updated: 03/11/2024 @ 12:10 AM EST

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